Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 120

02/05/2015 10:00 AM House FISHERIES


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10:08:39 AM Start
10:09:24 AM HJR7
10:25:22 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HJR 7 OPPOSE ALEUTIAN NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 7(FSH) Out of Committee
        HJR 7-OPPOSE ALEUTIAN NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:09:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO. 7, Opposing  the proposed designation                                                               
of an Aleutian Islands National Marine Sanctuary.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:09:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HJR 7,  labeled 29-LS0368\H, Nauman, 1/27/15,                                                               
as the working draft.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:10:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:10:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BRYCE EDGMON,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  the                                                               
sponsor  of the  proposed resolution,  directed attention  to the                                                               
Explanation of Changes  Between HJR 7 and  CSHJR 7(FSH) [included                                                               
in  members' packets]  and explained  the changes.   He  reported                                                               
that both  changes reflect the  fact that, although  the proposal                                                               
for the  Aleutian Islands National Marine  Sanctuary was rejected                                                               
by the  National Oceanic  and Atmospheric  Administration (NOAA),                                                               
the  proposal "was  still  clearly on  the table  in  terms of  a                                                               
future  submission  of a  request..."    He first  explained  the                                                               
changes on  page 3, lines 3  - 7, which clarified  that, although                                                               
the  nomination was  deemed  not sufficient,  there  had been  an                                                               
invitation for a  revised nomination to be  submitted.  Directing                                                               
attention to  page 3, line 10,  he explained that the  phrase "or                                                               
any similar nomination" was inserted  to address this possibility                                                               
of future nomination.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:12:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STUTES removed  her  objection.   There  being no  further                                                               
objection,  the proposed  committee  substitute (CS)  for HJR  7,                                                               
labeled 29-LS0368\H, Nauman, 1/27/15,  was adopted as the working                                                               
draft.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:12:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON stated that  this nomination for the marine                                                               
sanctuary was an unwanted intrusion  from an organization, Public                                                               
Employees  for  Environmental  Responsibility (PEER),  which  had                                                               
moved forward without  any consultation even from  members of the                                                               
Alaska environmental  community.   He pointed  out that  PEER was                                                               
unknown  even  to  those  members  of  the  Alaska  environmental                                                               
community to whom he had spoken.   He explained that the quest by                                                               
PEER  to  establish a  large  marine  sanctuary in  the  Aleutian                                                               
Islands, effectively  the size  of the State  of Alaska,  had not                                                               
been requested by  any of the local communities in  the area.  He                                                               
stated that  "no one really  knew about  this" and he  only found                                                               
out about this  nomination when it was in the  process and became                                                               
public.   He  emphasized that  there was  vigorous opposition  by                                                               
"essentially  everyone  that  is  aware   of  it  in  the  Alaska                                                               
Peninsula  and  Aleutian  Island  region."   He  pointed  to  the                                                               
letters  of opposition  included  in the  members'  packets.   He                                                               
declared that proposed HJR 7 would  send a strong signal from the                                                               
Alaska State  Legislature that the  body did not approve  of this                                                               
or similar  actions as the  communities had not been  included in                                                               
the discussion even though the  process required that communities                                                               
be  participants.    He  offered  his  belief  that  it  was  not                                                               
necessary  to add  to  the  existing process  used  by the  North                                                               
Pacific Fishery  Management Council, the Board  of Fisheries, the                                                               
Alaska  Department of  Fish  & Game,  the  Aleutian Islands  Risk                                                               
Assessment panel,  and the National  Marine Fisheries  Service in                                                               
making determinations  to this eco-system.   He pointed  out that                                                               
the  risk  from  off  shore  oil and  gas  exploration  had  been                                                               
minimized by the recent  presidential executive order withdrawing                                                               
32  million acres  in this  area from  oil and  gas leasing.   He                                                               
declared that many  of these proposed measures  for protection to                                                               
a  marine  and  seabird  habitat  were  already  in  place.    He                                                               
emphasized that the proposed resolution  was still in order, even                                                               
though the initial PEER nomination  had been rejected.  He opined                                                               
that  the  PEER nomination  effort  could  be re-submitted  in  a                                                               
revised application.   He requested  that the  committee consider                                                               
the proposed resolution in order to  send a strong signal that it                                                               
was necessary  to include  the consent  and agreement  from local                                                               
communities for any programs affecting them.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:17:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:18:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:19:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STUTES  closed public testimony  after ascertaining  no one                                                               
wished to testify.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON declared  his  support  for the  proposed                                                               
resolution.   He referenced the  PEER website, which  stated that                                                               
this nomination would be for  the first national marine sanctuary                                                               
in Alaska.  He offered his  belief that there would be additional                                                               
nominations  for  other marine  sanctuaries  in  the state.    He                                                               
stressed that it  was important to send a message  that the State                                                               
of Alaska  did not  support this.   He pointed  out that  some of                                                               
these  marine sanctuaries  in California  had "devastated  sports                                                               
fishing, for example..."   He said that  these marine sanctuaries                                                               
can take  an industry almost out  of business, and this  could be                                                               
more devastating  to the commercial  fishing industry  in Alaska.                                                               
He stated  that he wanted to  "stop it, nip  it in the bud."   He                                                               
avowed that the  Aleutians would be the "first time  we fight, it                                                               
will not be the last" in order  to protect the ability to use our                                                               
natural  resources.   He  affirmed  his  strong support  for  the                                                               
proposed resolution.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:20:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT offered her belief  that there was a large                                                               
national movement  to do just  this through  administrative order                                                               
rather than  go through  the public process.   She  expressed her                                                               
concern  for the  "lack of  talking to  Alaskans."   "We are  the                                                               
biggest environmentalist  that I know,  Alaskans.  We  care about                                                               
our  environment  because we  work,  recreate,  we eat  from  our                                                               
environment."  She  declared that this "flies in the  face of how                                                               
we manage our  state and how we manage our  federal lands and how                                                               
we manage  what's around us."   She declared her support  for the                                                               
proposed resolution.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:22:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  asked about  the process, should  the PEER                                                               
nomination for the Aleutian Islands  National Marine Sanctuary be                                                               
re-submitted.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  opined  that  this  nomination  could  be                                                               
approved  administratively  through   the  National  Oceanic  and                                                               
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:23:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EDGMON  concluded that the  resolution underscores                                                               
the strong management  regime already in place in  Alaska, and he                                                               
lauded the work of the  North Pacific Fishery Management Council,                                                               
as well as  the National Marine Fisheries Service  and the Alaska                                                               
Department of  Fish &  Game.   He pointed  out that  the proposed                                                               
resolution had a zero fiscal note.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  moved to  report  CSHJR  7, Version  29-                                                               
LS0368\H,  Nauman,  1/27/15,  out of  committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations  and the  accompanying zero  fiscal note.   There                                                               
being  no  objection,  CSHJR  7(FSH) was  moved  from  the  House                                                               
Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR 7 Hearing Request.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Draft Committee Substitute.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 CSHJR7 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 NOAA 1.23.2015 Response to PEER.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 NOAA PEER 12_22-14_Aleutian_Islands_NMS_Nomination.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 NOAA--The Sanctuary Nomination Process.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support Agdaagux Tribe of King Cove Resolution.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support Akutan Corporation.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support Akutan Traditional Council.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support Aleutians East Borough.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support City of Adak.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support City of Sand Point Resolution.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support King Cove Corporation.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Support SWAMC.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Fiscal Note.pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7
HJR 7 Explanation of Changes in CSHJR7(FSH).pdf HFSH 2/5/2015 10:00:00 AM
HJR 7